Talk:Manosphere

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Manosphere article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7: 3 months

The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information.

Men's Issues

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Men's Issues, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Men's Issues articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Men's IssuesWikipedia:WikiProject Men's IssuesTemplate:WikiProject Men's IssuesMen's Issues
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Sociology: Social Movements Low‑importance

	Society portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SociologyWikipedia:WikiProject SociologyTemplate:WikiProject Sociologysociology
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the social movements task force.

Gender studies Low‑importance

This article is part of WikiProject Gender studies. This WikiProject aims to improve the quality of articles dealing with gender studies and to remove systematic gender bias from Wikipedia. If you would like to participate in the project, you can choose to edit this article, or visit the project page for more information.Gender studiesWikipedia:WikiProject Gender studiesTemplate:WikiProject Gender studiesGender studies

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

To-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Assess : see Unassessed Gender studies articles and Unknown-importance Gender studies articles
Cleanup : edit to see
Collaborate : see /Collaboration
Copyedit : edit to see
Deletion sorting : see /Sexuality and gender
Expand : edit to see
Infobox : see Gender studies articles needing infoboxes
Merge : edit to see
Notability : edit to see
NPOV : edit to see
Orphans : Brannon Masculinity Scale · Holy Virility · Media and gender · Michael Kaufman (author) · Women's education in Saudi Arabia
Photo : see Wikipedia requested photographs of gender studies
Split : History of feminism
Stubs : see Gender studies stubs
Translate : see /translation
Update : edit to see
Verify : Riot grrrl
Needs attention : see Gender studies articles needing attention

Feminism Low‑importance

	Feminism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Feminism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Feminism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FeminismWikipedia:WikiProject FeminismTemplate:WikiProject FeminismFeminism
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Discrimination Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Discrimination, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Discrimination on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DiscriminationWikipedia:WikiProject DiscriminationTemplate:WikiProject DiscriminationDiscrimination
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

Conservatism Low‑importance

	Conservatism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Conservatism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of conservatism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ConservatismWikipedia:WikiProject ConservatismTemplate:WikiProject ConservatismConservatism
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Websites: Computing Low‑importance

	This article is part of WikiProject Websites, an attempt to create and link together articles about the major websites on the web. To participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page.WebsitesWikipedia:WikiProject WebsitesTemplate:WikiProject WebsitesWebsites
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Computing.

Psychology

	Psychology portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Psychology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Psychology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PsychologyWikipedia:WikiProject PsychologyTemplate:WikiProject Psychologypsychology
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been designated as a contentious topic.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. If consensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2024

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

I think manoshphere does not promote misogyn Dsgeorge3005 (talk) 09:59, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done I think that spaghetti grows on trees but that's nobody else's problem but mine. Seriously though, this page is not for stating personal opinions about the subject. It is for specific suggestions about how to improve the article. See WP:NOTFORUM. --DanielRigal (talk) 14:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

POV

Men's right activists are not anti-feminists just as feminists are not anti-men. 59.183.52.134 (talk) 16:55, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There have been many different men's movements, each of which has its own relationship to feminism. reliable sources mostly regard the MRA, specifically, as a backlash to feminism. If you would like to propose a specific change to this article, based o n reliable sources, please do so. Otherwise, this talk page isn't a forum for general discussion. Grayfell (talk) 18:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2025

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Among MRAs and PUAs this argument is known as "alpha fux beta bux.

Please add new section:-

According to the OECD, the UK is the third most fatherless country in the world after Denmark ad Lithuania. Persistent vilification of men is underscored by 93% of UK custody claims bing awarded to the mother, where pursuant to the 2010 Equality Act, 50% would be a figure demonstrating fairness. The probability of 93% being a random event, over such numerous awards, is fleetingly low, at 2.2 x 10 -16 (or slightly less than winning the lottery twice.

Hence some observers think the Manosphere is a fictitious construct and should be regarded with caution. Rajan russell (talk) 11:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 12:08, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to supply a published source from OECD. The idea that 50% would be fair sounds like it is from the men's rights activists, not from OECD. (Being "fair" means looking at all the factors, not just gender of parent.) The statistic about 93% probability is unnecessary original research. Binksternet (talk) 12:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Seminar in Mass Communication Problems - Media Literacy

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 January 2025 and 12 May 2025. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): The MayorofPB (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Ericjamesu.

— Assignment last updated by Laleedaa (talk) 01:15, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Examples

Seems like there should be some major figures included in the body of the article. Rogan, Tate, Gaines, etc. Maybe even a section of its own with a list? natemup (talk) 18:31, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have secondary and/or tertiary sources to verify that these are indeed major figures within the manosphere? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 20:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that the article describes the manosphere as though there are a number of notable figures (even celebrities) involved, but doesn't name any. I have to think that the sources speak of some specifically, so I'm just curious why the article names no one. natemup (talk) 23:11, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article mentions several prominent figures by name. Beyond that, individuals are scarcely mentioned probably because reliable sources tend to discuss the manosphere as a collection of groups and online forums in which many members post anonymously. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but many of the sources also speak of it in terms of the celebrities whose ideas and activities often dominate such forums. I've added a few names and sources, and renamed that "websites" section, in part because I've added social media influencers and because Reddit (the site with the most content in the section) isn't a manosphere website, strictly speaking. natemup (talk) 23:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, out of the names I just added (most of whom are household names), none were previously mentioned in the body of the article. A few were in the "see also" section, but that obviously isn't sufficient. natemup (talk) 23:41, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2024

POV

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2025

Wiki Education assignment: Seminar in Mass Communication Problems - Media Literacy

Examples

zproxy.org